the cover article is "the bible-is it really god's inspired word?"..
this has got to be a new low in watchtower superficiality.
how do we know that isaiah and daniel were authentic despite the claims of critics?.
This is not circular reasoning - your viewing the bible as 1 book
The 66 books of the bible are from different times, different writers and different locations - so using 1 of these to confirm another is fine by me.
Though not to say that WT do not use circular reasoning - of course they do - just not this time, in my opinion.
last night, author and ex-christian, john w. loftus debated dinesh d'souza on the topic, "does the christian god exist?".
below is loftus' opening statement.. .
in every single case dineshs response will be pretty much the same.
I believe in God - but not sure if I would describe him as only the christian God though.
Its a good question....
do you ever post without quoting the bible?
why do you feel a compulsive need to quote scriptures in all your posts?
were you once a bible-thumping jw or are you just a born-again bible thumper who never was a jw and just happens to dislike jws?.
I am with wobble on this - I enjoy Chalam's scriptural comments.
Chalam - don't you stop.........
so when we moved here from maine to okc, six years ago this coming april, my daughter was 7. the military moved us so it brings a big moving truck to your house and unloads all of your stuff etc.
we had been settling in for a few months and my daughter starting telling me that she was hearing things in her room.
small things at first, just enough to prick up her ears.
Are there demons? Is there really evil?
No doubt demons exist - whether they would come to your house and make a child say "I want to have sex with Satan" is another thing!!!
I used to have demonic dreams quite frequently until I stopped believing in demons.
I do not accept that all such experiences can be catagorized as dreams - I have heard about far to many that are way way beyond the dream state.
maybe arrogance is not the right word but i can find no other that describes what i see.
the idea expressed by some christians on this board is that somehow god specifically chose them.
i'll quote perry as an example as his post inspired this thread.
A short time later,and I mean frighteningly short, a JW called on me, with the specific purpose of getting me back in it. Nobody else called,not even a still small voice inside me.
What do all yous'e make of that. Especially you Christians.
A test?
Coincidence?
Maybe being a JW would be good for you?
Maybe its the truth? - OK - strike that one .
I don't know - I do not fully understand prayer, the essence of God, purpose of life etc. All I know is that people, some people, seem to get very precise answers to prayers.
Because a prayer, perhaps many prayers, do not get answered does not mean that all prayers never get answered.
The Scotsman
maybe arrogance is not the right word but i can find no other that describes what i see.
the idea expressed by some christians on this board is that somehow god specifically chose them.
i'll quote perry as an example as his post inspired this thread.
Imagine no religion,
i wonder if we can.....
The absense of religion would not make it a better world - just a different one.
what songs or movies, helped, inspired or uplifted you in your journey out of the wt?
this is my anthem...helps me feel better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgt1aidzrwm.
The first 60 seconds of Love Actually - the JWs hate the world around them and paint a horrible picture of people who are non JWs.
The reality is - well - watch the video....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsnruVriVYw
Love Actually is all around.....
maybe arrogance is not the right word but i can find no other that describes what i see.
the idea expressed by some christians on this board is that somehow god specifically chose them.
i'll quote perry as an example as his post inspired this thread.
AK-jeff
What if you wanted to be chosen for decades and thought you were, then found out you weren't.
Perhaps when you "found out you weren't" that was God trying to help you - just a thought.....
I don't see how it can be argued that there is a certain arrogance of aire when someone believes that Sky-Daddy has picked them as son/daughter, thus favoring them for everlasting cloud-dweller while planning a hot southern retreat for us 'uncalled and unchosen'.
Who said you are "uncalled and unchosen"? Did you come to this conclusion yourself due to past experience's?
I view myself as a christian and I certainly do not think that way - I believe christ died for all mankind, not just for a select elite few or some particular group.
Their is hope for us all yet.........
maybe arrogance is not the right word but i can find no other that describes what i see.
the idea expressed by some christians on this board is that somehow god specifically chose them.
i'll quote perry as an example as his post inspired this thread.
You don't have to be christian to be arrogant.
Plenty of arrogant people in the world - men, woman, christian, jew, muslim, hindu, young, old, black, white, religious, non religious, atheists etc etc.
So as far as i am concerned anyone pointing the finger at another group and accusing them of being arrogant is being - well - arrogant!
You say "Why has God not chosen me?" With all due respect you do not sound like someone who would want to be chosen - perhaps that's the answer to your question.
The Scotsman
hi all, its time i stopped lurking around here.
i've been posting at jws for just over a year, i know a few names here and it looks like there is lots of good banter going on.. i am a second generation, born-in who grew up in west-central scotland.
i pioneered in edinburgh and later married and settled in berwick just south of the border.
I was an attendant at Murrayfield - and was risen to the heady heights of attendant captain at Perth.
It was great - did not need to sit through those long long sessions - that 99% of JWs don't like but would never admit.
